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Tirobhava to Anugraha
Guru = Sun, Moon, Jupiter [Awareness, Mind, Wisdom/Knowledge]
Saturday, February 4, 2023
The mechanics of relationship
When they say "basic humanity",
It means a base level of positive relationship.
Thereafter there are many higher levels of positive relationship.
Generally, partner/lover/parents/relatives/close-friends/friends/children/colleagues/comrades/tribe/community/caste/race/interest-group/guru etc. form the higher levels of positive relations.
So the spectrum might go like:
Basic life values -> Basic human values -> Distant friend/Acquaintances -> Closer friends -> Relatives -> Parents/Siblings -> Lover etc.
There can be many variations of this order though.
Then if we go to the negative levels of relationship we have,
First is indifference/avoidance/hostility.
That is the base level of negative relationship.
From here, things can descend negatively in 2 ways.
# The person/group wants to just wall you out of their life/totally end things/door-slam you out. This could also mean eliminating you. But here the killing is simply done in the fastest efficient way to get you out. If there was a way to simply vaporize you out of existence instantly, even that would be greatly preferred. This is more like instant kill on sight, excommunication/banishment/total-rejection etc. This is captured in killer movies, where the killer just wants to shoot you down as quickly as possible and get out of the scene.
# There is an even worse descent into the negative though. Where the people want to torture you or extract revenge. Here, the intent is not just to get rid of you or wall you out. Here it is to actively subjugate you, disable you, trouble you, torture you in various ways. This is captured in movies like batman and the joker.
An even more extreme worse version of this is shown in "Ghost" movies where the ghost has the utmost evil torture intent and is outside of all the limitations of the physical - depicting the most extremes of powerlessness and impossibility to save oneself. Some of the hell concepts are exactly this way.
So this is the spectrum of negative relationship: From most severe to mild:
Ghost hunting you down to torture you ------ Government/Large group/Swat team/Law/Police hunting you down ------ A group hunting you down like bullies/someone against you because of what you represent etc.----- A single person hunting you down from some personal vendetta ----- General hostile indifference from everyone around you....and so on.
Another factor maybe who is against you and how much they matter to you.
For instance, it will hurt much more for your parent/child to be against you, than if some random bully is against you.
Politeness can be a form of boundary/distancing/scoping.
It is setting a frame/limitation/boundary/circumscribed-scope for the interaction.
In a way it can be good too, because then you know what scope-module has been opened up for you and you can safely interact freely in those confines.
It could be like, let's start there, and then move it up from there, or it could be, this is the max we will stay within throughout the time.
If you change the game-rules of the relationship, back-track it.
Then the other is forced to step-back to that level too.
# The ultimate ending is the nulling of all relationship - "You mean nothing to me personally, but impersonally I'd deal with you the way I'd deal with a stranger".
To that extent the liberties are withdrawn.
That is a demotion from the personal to the collective,
But however it is still maintaining the general positive direction.
So it is far from ultimate nulling.
In a way, it is impossible to NOT HAVE a relation with something/someone.
There are only 2 negative ways to deal in relation.
One is defense, other is offense.
# Defense puts up walls, puts up boundaries, puts up conditions. In its most extreme condition, defense will be entirely unresponsive. It is sort of like Gandhi's Satyagraha.
# Offense simply tries to overpower the other into submitting bending to their will or simply having a relation of destroying the other. This one is like Genghis Khan.
In my opinion, defense is FAR FAR less violent than offense.
Defense is at least a live and let live, I'll try to forget you exist, you try to forget I exist, and few times we may fight where there is intersection, and then we go back to our dens".
Offense is just, me live you die.
Defense caters to the principle of preservation.
Offense caters to the principle of expansion.
Since life is both preservation and expansion,
Each party whether defense or offense is suppressing one huge aspect of life.
I think Sadhguru put it simply:
"Everyone is selfish only. Selflessness does not exist, it is just an impossible foolish idea. The question is does your selfishness include the other or not, that is the only real question."
This is like the CURRENCY of relations.
Your positive relations are your positive bank balance.
Your negative relations are your negative bank balance debt.
Either way, both will get consumed in the process of your living.
Either you will exhaust your positive bank account in enjoyment.
Or you will let the debters attack you and thereby exhaust your debts with them.
I wonder though, is everything ultimately moving towards the positive?
Like do we ever exhaust a positive relation? or once established does it permanently stay that way?
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